1. More US Soldiers Committed Suicide Than Died in Combat

For the second year (2010) in a row, more US soldiers killed themselves (468) than died in combat (462). “If you… know the one thing that causes people to commit suicide, please let us know,” General Peter Chiarelli told the Army Times, “because we don’t know.”  Suicide is a tragic but predictable human reaction to being asked to kill – and watch your friends be killed – particularly when it’s for a war based on lies.  Perhaps being required to bag the mangled flesh of fellow soldiers could be another reason that some are committing suicide.

Body Bagging… ever heard the term?  Marines in the Corps’s Mortuary Affairs unit at Camp Al Taqaddum, Iraq, are assigned the job of collecting and cataloging the bodies of dead Marines. They sift through the remains and effects, from prom photos to suicide notes and love letters, and put them into a bag, then into a metal box and then into a refrigerator to await the flight home. One soldier, Jess Goodell, recounts a Marine brought into the unit still breathing. She frantically called to her superiors, who replied simply, “Wait.” She watched while he died. When she returned to the US, Goodell, like many others, was diagnosed with deep depression, substance abuse, PTSD and anxiety.

Sources:

“Death and After in Iraq”, Chris Hedges, Truthdig, March 21, 2011. http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_body_baggers_of_iraq_20110321

“More US Soldiers Killed Themselves Than Died in Combat in 2010,” Cord Jefferson,  Good, January 27, 2011.
http://www.good.is/post/more-us-soldiers-killed-themselves-than-died-in-combat-in-2010

“Can You Face the True Consequences of War? The Horror of Bagging Soldiers’ Bodies in Iraq,” Chris Hedges, Alternet, March 21, 2011.
http://www.alternet.org/world/150322/can_you_face_the_true_consequences_of_war_the_horrors_of_bagging_soldiers%27_bodies_in_iraq/?page=1

“Ten Reasons the Iraq War Was No Cakewalk,” Medea Benjamin and Charles Davis, Alternet, March 18, 2011.  http://www.alternet.org/world/150297/ten_reasons_the_iraq_war_was_no_cakewalk

Student Researcher: Bay Ewald, San Francisco State University

Faculty Evaluator: Kenn Burrows, San Francisco State University

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  • Dyckes

    The line troops in 12 months in the field saw more
     combat than infantry units saw in WWII in 4 yrs….
     Calling Iraq and Afghan a WAR is a misnomer….
     The casualty reports do not confirm it….15,000
    that’s 50 dudes A DAY…
     men died in VIETNAM  in 1968…..and no doubt
     90% of the soldiers who venture in those zones
     nowdays are just REMF’s..the rear escelon who will never
      see actual combat or see their units decimated within
      one year…the US Soldier nowdays is not a volunteer….
       he is a paid Merc…..who happened to be disolutioned
       and unemployed teenager…ect…..things keep transpiring
       in Pakistan like they have been …..these REMF’s will be
        forced to prove themselves in a REAL WAR…. instead of a 
    Bloody Police Action….with tactical air support
    wearing the uniform
        doesn’t make you an instant RAMBO….yeh have to pay
        your dues first….and then your’e   ANTI WAR……the
         reason for all the suicides…..the solution to NAM was
         the draftees no longer showed up…..and the troops began
         the internal rebellion  via fragging…ect  in the field….something
         the Defense Dept ( ex WaR Department) will not admit…
       

  • http://twitter.com/Arkansascajun steve whodat

    I know why. thier conscience can’t deal with what they know we have done. that’s the same reason that army shrink went postal. he broke under the weight of all the stories told him by his patients.
    somebody pass it on the the pentagon huh.

  • http://twitter.com/Arkansascajun steve whodat

    I know why. thier conscience can’t deal with what they know we have done. that’s the same reason that army shrink went postal. he broke under the weight of all the stories told him by his patients.
    somebody pass it on the the pentagon huh.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JT2B2FTIPIM3YVILVPUGQGQ5FQ Tim

    Think its bad now? Wait until they are ordered to round up and/or fire on American citizens.

  • Jane

    Agree Jbenn0991, this is a problem that is not being addressed within the military. 

  • MrBillCVanc

    There could be some factors which would exacerbate
    Depression in these soldiers.
    1 Excitotoxins in the processed food they eat. ie MSG
    Glutamate, Aspartamine,  etc… refer to Dr. Blaylocks
    Book, “:The taste that Kills”
    2. Russian “Woodpecker” and scalar wave technologies.
    These weaponized devices can interfer with the well being  of brain chemistries . Dr Nick B wrote the book
    “Angels don’t play this Harp” Russia has developed this
    technology for field application. Also Iran supposedly
    has Scalar wave weapons buried on their borders. Note
    they just brought down a US unmaned drone!!!
    Just some different Ideas to stir in the pot.
    MrBillC

  • http://profiles.google.com/emergentmind jason ellis

    @twitter-302930167:disqus  I bet you served in a time of relative peace, and did not have any traumatic experiences. The military is a drain on society. The government is a drain on society. Those who come out of war with PTSD are the cost and consequence of being a warlike, big government society. If we cannot take care of those injured in war, be it physical and or mental, then we have no business going to war in the first place.

    I also served, but unlike you, I am not happy. I saw and learned things that I wish upon nobody. It scarred me, both physically and mentally. I have what may be called a moral wound. That is when one is forced to go against one’s deeply held moral beliefs, and then suffers (possibly forever) with an intractable conflict within. Suicide may be the only cure for such a moral wound, and I’m only surprised that the suicide numbers are not higher. I’ve been on the brink twice, and am not sure of my future.

  • Captain H

    Could have been screened by triage.  That is US Military (medical) policy.  No doubt Marines take care of Marines.  Also though, triage separates those that can be saved and those who can not. 

  • Captain H

    Could have been screened by triage.  That is US Military (medical) policy.  No doubt Marines take care of Marines.  Also though, triage separates those that can be saved and those who can not. 

  • Sees Clearly

    Smoke more dope Andy.

  • Vellachsamie

    “If you… know the one thing that causes people to commit suicide, please let us know,” General Peter Chiarelli told the Army Times, “because we don’t know.”I say, time to demote General Peter Chiarelli and find someone with better knowledge about humans to be a General. After all the army still uses humans not robots. What a moron.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tommy.derossett Thomas Mfba DeRossett

    you also served in a totally different generation… your wars were nothing like todays never ending wars.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kansas-Bright/100000673209851 Kansas Bright

    General Peter Chiarelli, did you ever think it might be because they take an Oath to support and defend the US Constitution when they go in. That they are told it is all about “protecting American Freedom” and it turns out it is a UN issue or defending big business issue in reality.
    Then they see the “politics” involved with higher ups who lie, cheat, steal, do anything but what they are in there to do, which is defend this nation from the DOMESTIC enemies as well as the Foreign ones.
    That we have a POTUS who is illegally occupying that office because he did NOT keep his Oath as required to do if he wanted to LEGALLY stay in that position. That alone says we have been taken over by DOMESTIC enemies.
    Plus I am sure some of those were actually murdered for refusing to not uphold their Oath to their country for whom they were REALLY fighting, and then called suicide.  (from one who served and needs to be kept private).
    If you do NOT have the honor or Balls to keep the Oath you took (quite a few times on your way up the ladder) then you need to be arrested as a Domestic Enemy of the USA.

    A US citizen who cares about THIS country, not politics which is ran by domestic enemies, or upward mobility at the cost of American citizens and this countries liberty.

  • Taylor

    This statistic is being woefully misused here. Fewer die in combat than suicide because the US military is excellent at fighting safely, not because they commit suicide a lot. In fact, other studies show that soldiers are less likely to commit suicide than their civilian peers. What should actually be taken away from this is that the young people overseas are so good at their jobs, that they are safer from combat than civilians are from suicide. 

  • taylor

    Absolutely. The military life is uniquely difficult, but so is the amazing support systems. I grew up in an Air Force family, and I am in the Army myself. 21 years of military lief has taught me that the people are great, and take care of each other like no one else. 

  • Briancaffrey

    everyone who joins the military is made aware of the danger he or she could face before they sign up it is part and parcel of the occupation they have freely chosen,they are therefore responsible for for the situation they have put themselfs in,i  feel sorry for injured soldiers but like i said this is part of the game they chose to play.My heart goes out to the moms, dads brothers wifes and sisters who are left with a lifetime burden of care, hardship and responsibility for there injured loved ones because if they do not do it nowone else will,the military do rehab give them a meager allowance and leave them to rot and hope that the world forgets about them,this is also in my opinion one of the main reasons for the high rate of suicide amoungst military personal past and present.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps you could cheer up poor old General Chiarelli with your spin…dont worry we’re very good at fighting safely, ignore the majority of dead soldiers corpses with slit wrists and look at the others instead.

  • Suiteamsterdam

    u r an idiot

  • Suiteamsterdam

    u r an idiot

  • wendywasp

    Good Grief!
    Should we be surprised this “too idiotic to be a general” doesn’t get it?  How many of us, if there was no other way wouldn’t kill our own selves in order to stop being forced to kill others (including babies, young children, old people, women)?  These people can find no other way to stop the killing than to kill themselves and these conscienceless morons at the pentagon shrug and go “i don’t know, whadya think?”  

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  • Anonymous

    There was no need to add your last comment “let me guess, you are more upset about an animal dying than a human.” What does one have to do with the other? One’s love for animals should never be used as an excuse or motivating factor for one’s callous attitudes towards humans. Besides, animals were never even mentioned in the OP’s comment.  

    Stick to the subject matter. All life is valuable, which is why we should be opposed to wars and any taking of life.

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  • Anonymous

    This doesn’t even take into account the various experimental vaccinations all soldiers are forced to submit to.

    The only solution here is to convince people to STOP SIGNING UP for these wars!!!!  

  • Anonymous

    This doesn’t even take into account the various experimental vaccinations all soldiers are forced to submit to.

    The only solution here is to convince people to STOP SIGNING UP for these wars!!!!  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HOIP7V4NBTEONPL3332WMN2P7E C.

    Actually is does matter because if you are fighting  based on truth and in self defense your purpose and intentions are different, which means a world of difference, especially related to outcome.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HOIP7V4NBTEONPL3332WMN2P7E C.

    how about if:
    as long as they are there and looting the place for any commodities they find,  know of, learn of, and/or stumble upon. (i.e. oil, opium, ancient artifacts, cash, weaponry, etc.)

  • Raemi

    We have to remember, there are suicides all the time in all walks of life.  We just don’t hear ablut 99% of them.  So, when you take into account that all of these suicides are reported and that the people serving in the Army now are a cross section of society, there numbers should not suprise anyone.

  • Raemi

    We have to remember, there are suicides all the time in all walks of life.  We just don’t hear ablut 99% of them.  So, when you take into account that all of these suicides are reported and that the people serving in the Army now are a cross section of society, there numbers should not suprise anyone.

  • Stainlessea73

    This goes for any time your strugling in life and feel depressed or hopeless. It’s called the “HALT” rule. Halt stands for four words.
    Four things that if you give attention to will help you to feel better. They are Hungry, Angry, Lonely and Tired. The more of these you have at any one time the more you feel overwehlmed. Sometimes you cannot fix them all but if you can make one better then you will start to feel better. So if your depressed
    Halt yourself and ask yourself what can I fix right now.    

  • http://bigdanblogger.blogspot.com/ Big Dan

    “If you… know the one thing that causes people to commit suicide, please let us know,” General Peter Chiarelli told the Army Times, “because we don’t know.”Is this guy kidding? That’s EASY! ILLEGAL WARS are causing them to commit suicide, you idiot!

  • Someuser

    Tim said:  “Think its bad now? Wait until they are ordered to round up and/or fire on American citizens.”  At least Tim is awake.  What about the other 300+ million Americans?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=683861897 Ray Morrison

    The One Thing that causes Suicide is ELF Frequencies Between 6 to 10 Hz sending negative hate signals being transmitted by H.A.A.R.P. yes your own Military and it’s doesn’t help when Your Own Military Tells you to kill or brothers and sisters for profit and we all know it so stop the killing and turn off the ELF Transmitters.. Why do some not feel the effects of depression…   THEY SMOKE POT and ELF Signals are ignored by the effect of Marijuana actually creating new  Cannabinoid receptor type 1   phytocannabinoids and you start to experience new intellect Ignoring the NEW WORLD ORDER…, 

  • Anonymous

    Fox News, or some draft dodging right-wing conservative radio personalilty, (Great American, like Rush Limbaugh, or Sean Hannity… War hardened ,  opinionators…

  • Anonymous

    They were lied to, deny that smarty pants… They know the truth.

  • Anonymous

    Right Andy, keep on believing that, only a jarhead believes everything he is told, now go and apply for disability…

  • Anonymous

    Right Andy, keep on believing that, only a jarhead believes everything he is told, now go and apply for disability…

  • Anonymous

    You are a wonderful wife, and he is a very fortunate man to have you. Keep fighting them for his rights, and thnk you…

  • Anonymous

    Wow!!!

  • Anonymous

    Lt. Dan, of Forrest Gump fame was right… think about it for a minute…

  • Anonymous

    You are right Brett, but Americans like things all wrapped up in a pretty box with a yellow ribbon tied around it.  It kind of makes them feel good when they start beating the drums to start another war… funny,  they are doing just that now,  don’t believe it;  watch the next republican debate, and then google the last 10 or 11 and watch them all jump out of the clown car beating the same old tune.  Why not, their kids don’t have to worry about it…

  • Anonymous

    Maybe Mr. Bush and mr. Cheney will put in a few good words for the returning troops. It was all Ra, Ra, Ra when they got us into this mess, but now,  Crickets… Do you ever see anybody from that Cabal, speaking out for jobs, or better whatever you can think of that will benefit our returning troops? Listen to the candidates, do you ever hear them talk about PTSD?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe Mr. Bush and mr. Cheney will put in a few good words for the returning troops. It was all Ra, Ra, Ra when they got us into this mess, but now,  Crickets… Do you ever see anybody from that Cabal, speaking out for jobs, or better whatever you can think of that will benefit our returning troops? Listen to the candidates, do you ever hear them talk about PTSD?

  • Anonymous

    Give this guy the big rainbow sucker, wait, that is his head… did he really say “a lifetime burden of care? Lt. Dan… you were right… Burden? Really??

  • Anonymous

    Sounds good, but it is not logical, the truth always matters, and it the truth about 9/11 had been told, we never would have gone to war in the first place… but be proud, and just try to sleep… yeah, sometimes you have “visitors” dropping by… sometimes you make eye contact… nothing like your video games.

  • Anonymous

    (Freedom)?  Go talk to the people in the Occupy Wall Street Movement? Then watch out for the Baton!!! And all those para-military peace officers there to protect the establishment from your “Freedom”…

    Semper, Fi

  • Anonymous

    (Freedom)?  Go talk to the people in the Occupy Wall Street Movement? Then watch out for the Baton!!! And all those para-military peace officers there to protect the establishment from your “Freedom”…

    Semper, Fi

  • Shaban Shaulic

    Did they happen to die during invasion of other countries for their Zionist masters?

  • Shaban Shaulic

    Did they happen to die during invasion of other countries for their Zionist masters?

  • Shaban Shaulic

    Did they happen to die during invasion of other countries for their Zionist masters?

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